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Message 78078 - Posted: 21 May 2017, 7:09:13 UTC - in response to Message 78064.  

3x£3.59 totals £10.77 but the new price for 30g of the same brand is £12.59 - that is the same across the board. So what else can one think but an increase in both profits & tax.

Compared to booze increases every year, the tobacco industry takes the biggest hit.


Easy P.M you a link to that website i told you about a couple of months ago now i think Sirius , I got 1kg at a time and no problems with customs coz ain't illlegal ( OR FAKE !!!!! ) , you can check out the HMRC website for yourself and see i ain't talkin rubbish ( but the rules will prob change after brexit but still over 18 months + left there ;-) )
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Message 78081 - Posted: 21 May 2017, 7:35:50 UTC - in response to Message 78078.  

I've been given 2 links including yours & when my current supply runs out, going to give them a try :-)

In the meantime, if any of my friends pop over to Europe...
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Message 78083 - Posted: 21 May 2017, 7:40:25 UTC - in response to Message 78081.  
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Will be in a few months for the Spa race weekend ( with a side trip to Amsterdam with the girlfriend on our way there ;-) )

do get bit board of the same stuff 24 /7 don't you ;-)

Will let you know sooner to the time if you want
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Message 78085 - Posted: 21 May 2017, 7:50:56 UTC - in response to Message 78083.  

Thanks, If I'm running low by then.

Don't know what happened to me last night. I actually read all 3 manifestos, yeah I know, what a sad git :-(

Labour/Conservative can kiss my a**e. Now if only the Lib Dems did not have the EU firmly stuck up theirs, I would vote for them on the 8th (hope our resident Lib Dem don't blow a gasket) :-)

Some bird on Question Time had me in stitches as she told the panel that everyone keeps saying Jeremy Corbyn wants to takes us back to the 1970's & they may be right but May wants to takes us back to the 1870's - she's a real Victorian.
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Message 78086 - Posted: 21 May 2017, 8:19:12 UTC - in response to Message 78085.  

Here's the answer why not just take the good points from ALL the partys and implement em and work together ( ain't gone LLBHHESWPD) before anyone asks ;-) , ( yea i know , not a chance in hell of ever happening ) but all of em have good and bad points ( same as it was for Brexit both sides had good AND bad points ) .
To simple a answer i knows so don't bother saying .
I'm guna go out the back and sort the garden out , to nice a day here to be stuck inside after i finishes me 3rd cuppa and 2nd baggie ;-)
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Message 78087 - Posted: 21 May 2017, 8:20:40 UTC - in response to Message 78086.  

Have fun, but make sure you keep the rain at bay :-)
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Message 78122 - Posted: 22 May 2017, 6:58:44 UTC - in response to Message 78105.  

You gotta love the Lib Dems :-)


Rather " love " em than Comrade Corbyn thanks ;-) LLBHTLHESWTWS !!!!! ;-)
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Message 78147 - Posted: 22 May 2017, 23:04:05 UTC

Manchester Arena explosion story developing... Sky News stream
Let's hope it's something different than terrorism this time.
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Message 78166 - Posted: 23 May 2017, 16:22:15 UTC - in response to Message 78165.  

We won WWII, the IRA never beat us, neither will IS.

or any other " terrorist organisation " !!!
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Message 78168 - Posted: 23 May 2017, 16:28:11 UTC - in response to Message 78165.  

The UK has received worldwide expressions of condolence amid general condemnations of the outrage, for which we are grateful. We won WWII, the IRA never beat us, neither will IS.

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@Ageless, delete it.

My apologies everyone, I did not realise I put that smiley, TBH it should have been :-(
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Message 78172 - Posted: 23 May 2017, 18:33:38 UTC

Next steps?

An interesting report, but if you read it fully, a worrying one.
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Message 78181 - Posted: 24 May 2017, 7:02:04 UTC

This will practically mean armed soldiers at key locations and events, so that armed police can be freed to focus on policing rather than guarding. Councils will also now be putting their emergency plans into operation e.g. in readiness to requisition community centres and school halls for emergency beds etc; effectively placing the country on a war footing.


This is exactly what they are hoping will happen, slowly but surely we will have to give up our freedoms.

That is why in the end we cannot win.
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Message 78184 - Posted: 24 May 2017, 9:17:05 UTC - in response to Message 78182.  

The question is, what do you mean by "win"? Recall the old fable about the bet between God and the Devil (I can't remember which religion's god/devil, and it doesn't matter). Oh, it was the Wind and the Sun:

One fable describes a contest between The Wind and The Sun. They had spotted a traveller clad in a heavy overcoat, and they both claimed to be able to get him to remove his coat in a shorter time than the other took.

Confident in his own power, The Wind made the first attempt. He blew mightily with all his strength, but his efforts only encouraged the traveller to pull in his coat more tightly around his body. Reluctantly, The Wind eventually had to give way for The Sun to make his attempt. Gently, The Sun shone his warm, attractive beams. Gradually the traveller relaxed, and loosened his coat as his body warmed through. Inevitably, it wasn't long before he removed his coat altogether.
It's looking as if this particular scumbag came from a Libyan family, but was born in Manchester while the family had exiled themselves from Gaddafi's regime. We (the West, including the UK) took the Wind's technique for removing Gaddafi's coat: look how well that turned out in the medium term - we don't know the long-term outcome yet, but it's not looking pretty.

I think Bernie is right to say that we won't "win" against terrorism if we continue the tactics of the last 20 years: putting up yet more walls against 'others' (people not like 'us'), and lobbing the occasional bomb over them. Using the parts of the world where we don't happen to live as demonstration ranges for our armaments industry isn't the way to get the world's resistance movements to take their coats off. (Remember, we - the UK government - were actively preparing to use the same terrorist tactics against 'invaders' or 'occupiers' if the second world war had ended differently)

I don't have any neat solution packages to offer, but they have to involve thoughtfulness, understanding, dialogue, patience...
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Message 78186 - Posted: 24 May 2017, 9:54:01 UTC

Oh, great. This is all we need. Democracy has retreated into a bunker, hidden away from the Demos.

Palace of Westminster closed to non-passholders, all events cancelled after UK security threat raised to critical
(source: Parliament's own website)
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Message 78187 - Posted: 24 May 2017, 9:59:53 UTC - in response to Message 78182.  
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Secondly, I am therefore extremely disappointed in your response that in the end we will never win. If people thought like you we wouldn't have won WWII or defeated the IRA. I therefore suggest that you send a copy of your post to The Mayor of Manchester, Andy Burnham, Chief Constable Ian Hopkins, and Home Secretary Amber Rudd. If you are too busy I will be willing to do that for you.
That is the most ridiculous statement you have ever made to date!

1st off, YOU have never defeated the IRA (& No I'm not standing up for them), neither has the UK. It was the Good Friday Agreement that curtailed their activities on the UK mainland.

2ndly, you have never served in uniform, neither in the intelligence service, all you've ever done is sat at a desk working for a private company. You have continually run down those that disagree or worse, make a comment that YOU find offensive to yourself only. In the past as well as the present, YOU will find many nationalities serving in the Armed Forces as well as the Emergency Services, yet all you do is to run those people down, time that is stopped don't you think?

3rdly, Get it right, you've never broken your silence, you just didn't like the way things went for you, but again all we see is a fellow countryman make a comment & you flare up - The Empire is dead. Long live the Empire.

The West will never win against terrorism for the simple fact is the those at the top will not do what is really necessary.

You continue writing your letters - You seem to be good at!
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Message 78188 - Posted: 24 May 2017, 10:52:15 UTC - in response to Message 78182.  
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The elected government of this country has a duty to protect the public as far as it is practical to do so. That is why the threat level has been raised to the maximum, and invoking all the covert and publicly visible measures that decision entails.

The injured include 12 children aged under 16, and 20 people remain in "critical care" across Manchester with people suffering from "horrific injuries" including major organ damage and potential loss of limbs, Jon Rouse of the Greater Manchester Health and Social Care Partnership has said.

Firstly, intelligence has likely stopped dozens of of attacks that could have happened, but didn't. Of course there will be other terrorist attacks, it is completely impossible to stop all of them, we know that, but that is not the point is it. Virtually everyone in the UK and also around the whole world have universally condemed the atrocity. Everyone has said that terrorism of any kind will never win in the long run. They will be defeated however long it takes.

Secondly, I am therefore extremely disappointed in your response that in the end we will never win. If people thought like you we wouldn't have won WWII or defeated the IRA. I therefore suggest that you send a copy of your post to The Mayor of Manchester, Andy Burnham, Chief Constable Ian Hopkins, and Home Secretary Amber Rudd. If you are too busy I will be willing to do that for you.

So it seems I am not allowed to have an opinion.

I stand by what I said. Unless we can understand their mentality, we cannot win. Unfortunately their thinking is so evil and corrupt to our western views, and may I add to all the Muslims I have know. That we just cannot put ourselves into their positions. Killing us infidels is what they exist for, it isn't a war, to them we are the scum of the earth and HAVE to be exterminated to appease their twisted views. In their ideology they cannot get into their twisted view of heaven unless they martyr themselves by killing infidels.

It is their religious duty to do so.

I do not have the answers but the more we use the old methods the more we fail

Imagine more attacks spread out over the next 5-10 years each time the security gets tighter and tighter, till we are afraid to go anywhere in our cities and we have armed soldiers on every street corner, stopping people at random. That doesn't seem like the sort of world I want ot live in.
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Message 78189 - Posted: 24 May 2017, 11:26:58 UTC - in response to Message 78188.  

I do not have the answers but the more we use the old methods the more we fail
Define what you mean by old methods.

I don't have the answers, however, what I do know is this:

1939-45 without the technology available today, our security & intelligence services did a superb job. Not one enemy agent succeeded in their mission. All that arrived on our shores by whatever means they used were captured. Those that refused to help were executed. Those that did were turned & used to our advantage.

72 years ago - What changed between then & now?
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Message 78190 - Posted: 24 May 2017, 11:34:19 UTC - in response to Message 78189.  

I do not have the answers but the more we use the old methods the more we fail
Define what you mean by old methods.

I don't have the answers, however, what I do know is this:

1939-45 without the technology available today, our security & intelligence services did a superb job. Not one enemy agent succeeded in their mission. All that arrived on our shores by whatever means they used were captured. Those that refused to help were executed. Those that did were turned & used to our advantage.

72 years ago - What changed between then & now?


The internet, instant communication, instant access to propaganda from IS. Instant access on how to make and use bombs.

The fact that many of these perpetrators were born and live here in the UK.

They don't have to arrive on our shores, the are already here, also it was a time of war, there was no freedom of travel in and out of the UK so sorry you cannot compare the two.

Unfortunately the answers to this problem are not what the western governments want to consider.
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Message 78191 - Posted: 24 May 2017, 11:39:04 UTC - in response to Message 78190.  

So Enoch Powell was right after all. Shame that those who rally against his views forget the most important part of his speech: - "Unbridled".

As for freedom of travel, yes there was - All the neutral countries embassies here - not all the spies were German.
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